Welcome to Episode 13 of A Beautiful Podcast to Fall in Love, TV Guide's unofficial Bachelor Nation show. This week, former The Bachelor and Bachelor in Paradise cast member Jacqueline Trumbull and TV Guide associate editor Liam Mathews break down Part 2 of the finale of Colton Underwood's season.

In this episode, Jacqueline tries to balance her appreciation for Colton's sweet earnestness with her relentless urge to make fun of him. She and Liam talk about the most dramatic season finale of any show in the history of television, from Cassie and Colton's surprisingly easy reconciliation to heartwarming first public appearance together on After the Final Rose. They discuss what may have changed in Cassie to make her certain that she wanted to be with Colton (she made a decision to accept his love), how much they enjoy it when the show acknowledges that producers are part of the process, and share their early concerns about Hannah B.'s season of The Bachelorette.

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The Bachelorette Season 15 premieres Monday, May 13 on ABC. The Bachelor is available to stream on Hulu.